Bomb Iran!

[chriso]

Bomb Iran!

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Israel and Iran will go to war within the year. Jewish grandmothers and Persian babies will die ghastly deaths. And the world will shrug.
This train is leaving the station. Iran’s perserverence in becoming a nuclear power plus Israel’s love of provocation and unnecessary use of overwhelming force equals bomb city.
It will begin with another Ahmadinejad speech. He will stand before an Islamic Engineers conference and restate either his “Israel must be wiped of the map” idea or his “Israel must vanish from the pages of time” idea. The engineers will applaud.
Back in Jerusalem, Benjamin Netanyahu will not consult with anyone but will send three American made F-15E Strike Eagles and ten Bell AH-1 Cobra attach helicopters to Tehran. Once there, the Strike Eagles will shoot their payload of nuclear warheads at dairies, toy factories and reactors. The Cobras will focus on preschools. Child blood trickling down the pavement makes Israelis horny.

Israel will fly to Tehran, or Qom, or Shiraz and find maternity wards. They will proceed to shoot pregnant mothers through the stomach and film, in slow motion, the fetal blood dipping onto white tile floors. It will be sold as pornography in Tel Aviv.

Iran will try and shoot surface-to-surface missiles made with North Korean technology in response. They will fizzle, mid-flight, and drop on Iraq. Nobody will care.
Israel will launch Boeing AH-64 Apache attach helicopters which will fly to Tehran, or Qom, or Shiraz and find maternity wards. They will proceed to shoot pregnant mothers through the stomach and film, in slow motion, the fetal blood dipping onto white tile floors. It will be sold as pornography in Tel Aviv.
World leaders will now pretend to do something. Gordon Brown will mutter. Silvio Berlusconi will comb his hair and fuck a hot Hungarian model.
In the past, George W Bush would have destroyed the entire Islamic world and half of Israel in a preemptive sort of way. That is why for the past eight years Israel and Iran have only glared at each other.
We are in year nine. The reign of King Obama
He will take the stage at the UN General Assembly dressed in dark blue Brooks Bros Golden Fleece and speak elegantly about “peace, shalom, baraka.” His speech will include the phrases “Change will not come if we wait for some other person or some other time.” And, “Focusing your life solely on making a buck shows a certain poverty of ambition.” He will do nothing.
Israelis will, in the meantime, be eating Persian brain matter from earthenware platters made in Gaza. The Israeli Defense Forces will be outflanking the whole Iranian Army. They will also be applying pincer offenses.
Iran’s traditional forces will be decimated, thus, the Ayatollahs will call on a past savior: Children with Bicycles. During the 1908s war with Iraq, rad kids strapped Qu’ranic verses to their heads and rode bikes across mine fields. They looked like Ralph Maccio. These kids will now ride across Iraq and Jordan into Israel. Nothing will stop them. They will mow Jews down under knobby tires and use their spokes to stab at eyeballs. The Jews will beg the international community to intervene.
A nuclear cloud will float from destroyed Iranian reactors up to Kazakhstan and settle over Mongolia. Children will be born with Downs Syndrome. And the world will be as one. – Chas Smith

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[Dirt Williams]

I'm glad I quit using drugs.....

Horny Israelis?

Like Sarah Silverman?

[donnieG]

And Chicken Little screamed, "The sky is falling! The sky is falling!"

[KBH]

Israel would put a serious ass raping to Iran. It would be embarrassing for them.

[ARMoReD FiST]

Originally Posted by KBH

Israel would put a serious ass raping to Iran. It would be embarrassing for them.

....absolutely. 100%

[done211]

Perhaps american missle sales to Isreal will stimulate the economy. Hoplessly sad isn't it.

[Arab]

Originally Posted by done211

Perhaps american missle sales to Isreal will stimulate the economy. Hoplessly sad isn't it.

Ya know Don, I dont think that is gonna happen, Barrack Hussien Obama has pretty much been called an anti -semite, I dont think he is gonna support Isreal on this one, but when all is said and done and Iran is whipped off the map, I'm sure he will try and step up and take credit for it.


As we speak Irans elections are going on, hopefully the youth vote will over throw Ahmadinejad, I'm sure if he gets ousted, Barrack Hussien Obama will try and take credit for that as well......... But if he doesnt, then I'm sure he will blame it on George Bush......

[devilsspeedbag]

Two diametrically opposed theocratic religions in states with a relatively close proximity. Never a good thing. It looks like Iran will eventually finish completion of their atomic missles and rocket delivery systems within the next decade and then both will have a button to push. Sad but true.

Interestingly, if every Iranian in Iran (75 million) and every Jew in Israel (7.28 million) perished fighting each other it would still fall materially short of the democide that occurred under 20th century state atheism.

The desirable center from both those extremes seems to be a constitutional secularism guaranteeing all of the basic human rights. Basically what we have here more or less.

It's noteworthy that even worldviews like Christianity which are non-theocratic sadly have achieved theocracy at various points in history just as state atheism did in the 20th century.

Honestly, anytime a worldview becomes transcendentalized none are permitted to challenge it. Aggressive political correctness takes form and grows into totalitarianism. All ideals divine, transcendent, human or invented are capable of being abused and human nature is that someone somewhere wants to abuse them. This is why no religion or state atheism can end divisions within humanity as history has already shown. These divisions are ultimately social constructs that reflect the fundamental sociological need to self define and identify those who are "in" and those who are "out," those who are "friends" and those who are "foes." We're literally born with the capacity for binary opposition and we exercise it as we internalize perceptions of identity.

Simply put, people group together according to some criteria and then devalue other groups. We're born that way. The simplistic belief that the elimination of religion or atheism or race or whatever would lead to the ending of violence, social tension or discrimination is thus sociologically naive.

It fails to take account of the way in which we (e.g. human beings) create values and norms and make sense of our identity and surroundings. If X ceases to exist, other social demarcators emerge as decisive, some of which become transcendentalized in due course. Opposition then arises.

It is what it is people. The goal is to find (or make) a place you find happy with people you get along with and hold it. It's getting harder to do though in a nuclear age when unhappy people in unhappy places can blow their radioactive smoke and sword rattling all over your happy place.

[ARMoReD FiST]

Originally Posted by devilsspeedbag

Two diametrically opposed theocratic religions in states with a relatively close proximity. Never a good thing. It looks like Iran will eventually finish completion of their atomic missles and rocket delivery systems within the next decade and then both will have a button to push. Sad but true.

It's as if the elephant in the room, is being ignored by western civilization. What happened to Palestine in 1946 is understandably infuriating--(and continues to this very day) as WE would get irate if a bunch of European emigre's flooded our streets proclaiming it's their land, while brokering a mickey mouse deal with the Western Allies. For that alone, the west is culpable in what is happening over there to this very day.

With that being said, most would agree that Persia is an inflammatory belligerent capable of using it's extraordinary resources to inflict a punishing blow to the state of Israel. It's the aforementioned reasons, I personally would like to see the leadership of Iran flattened like a pancake, although I get what they are trying to argue, thus giving creedence to the terrorist argument.

If that had happened here, not a single sole living here would rest until the invader was driven out--irregardless of biblical prophecy "Rightful" inhabitants or not. The fact that Palestinians managed to hold down the fort for centuries after the Israeli's "Chose" to be nomadic tribes wandering about the European countryside, until those lands no longer welcomed them is only relevant today, due to the fact we are still dealing with the ramifications of the decisions made in 1946.

Now, we MUST deal with it. Inaction, is no longer viable. Iran's nuclear capability will most inevitably spell doom for the state of Israel, and the west can no longer choose to avoid the results, and outcome of a nuclear armed belligerent in that region of the world. That's part in parcel, WHY we got rid of Saddam Hussein, and at least we had an administration that saw it in those terms.

-af

[done211]

[devilsspeedbag]

Originally Posted by ARMoReD FiST

It's as if the elephant in the room, is being ignored by western civilization. What happened to Palestine in 1946 is understandably infuriating--(and continues to this very day) as WE would get irate if a bunch of European emigre's flooded our streets proclaiming it's their land, while brokering a mickey mouse deal with the Western Allies. For that alone, the west is culpable in what is happening over there to this very day.

With that being said, most would agree that Persia is an inflammatory belligerent capable of using it's extraordinary resources to inflict a punishing blow to the state of Israel. It's the aforementioned reasons, I personally would like to see the leadership of Iran flattened like a pancake, although I get what they are trying to argue, thus giving creedence to the terrorist argument.

If that had happened here, not a single sole living here would rest until the invader was driven out--irregardless of biblical prophecy "Rightful" inhabitants or not. The fact that Palestinians managed to hold down the fort for centuries after the Israeli's "Chose" to be nomadic tribes wandering about the European countryside, until those lands no longer welcomed them is only relevant today, due to the fact we are still dealing with the ramifications of the decisions made in 1946.

Now, we MUST deal with it. Inaction, is no longer viable. Iran's nuclear capability will most inevitably spell doom for the state of Israel, and the west can no longer choose to avoid the results, and outcome of a nuclear armed belligerent in that region of the world. That's part in parcel, WHY we got rid of Saddam Hussein, and at least we had an administration that saw it in those terms.

-af

Very balanced AF. There is a lot of history to the second Jewish diaspora after the crucifixion of Christ anyone can read about online and a religious influenced struggle today amongst Abrahamic (e.g. Jew/Muslim/Christian) monotheists regarding the history and fate of modern Palestine/Israel but from a purely human perspective what you say about Palestine is true. It was Europeans taking away land from indigenous peoples again and then implementing a worldview that relegated them to the status of what blacks used to be relegated to in this country after slavery in the old Jim Crow south.

Still... was it not Europeans taking away land from indigenous peoples when Rome invaded Judaea destroying Jerusalem and killing then carrying off most of the Jews that survived into slavery dispersing them to the four winds of the ancient Roman Empire simply because some Jews revolted greatly offended by Greeks who were Roman citizens making sacrifices to pagan gods right in front of their holy temple dedicated to Yahweh?

Sure it was. But then those same Jews had fled slavery in Egypt taking away the land, taken from them by the Romans, from the indigenous peoples of Canaan.

From a non-divine perspective none of it really matters anyway as it's just a tiny spot on a ball of biological matter slowly spinning out of control through space... a statistically unlikely accident without purpose or future (e.g. all space is expanding meaning even the atoms will one day be too far apart for any life to exist though our sun will burn out long before then if we don't kill ourselves first). So if we're going to make moral value judgements and say that any of this matters beyond a fart in the wind then our opinions have to be from a worldview that is both real and ultimately meaningful. Monotheism asserts such but paganism asserts such too... atheism; however, certainly does not. So to have an ultimately meaningful moral value judgement you have to discount atheism but then the challenge is to discover which divine revelation(s) is/are the right one(s).

Without getting into the whole monotheism came from poltheism no it didn't historical argument scholars are engaged in are widening the discussion to discuss Greco-Roman paganism, Hebrew divine revelation and the Canaanites divine revelation were very different and not compatible. Hebrewism posited a loving creator God with a legalistic moral code. Canaanite divine revelation came from polytheistic gods who had absolutely no concept of morality engaging in immorality with humanity, requiring constant human sacrifices, temple prostitutes, and worship that locked Canaanite peoples in an endless cycle of war, slave taking, human sacrifice, immorality, etc... with themselves and each other.

But forget all that and let's get back to a purely human perspective, Egypt enslaved the Hebrews who were a free people within their borders in the first place after the Pharoah of Egypt invited Joseph's people (e.g. the Hebrews) to live there in Goshen as thanks for helping Egypt survive a severe drought in that time.

Interestingly, before that time Abraham and his descendents lived in relative peace with the pagans in the lands they settled in after leaving Ur.

So I guess what I'm saying, and everyone has their own opinion on this stuff which is why we talk about it with each other to see what others think and maybe learn from it, is if you're going to say it matters and have an opinion of what should be done that is ultimately meaningful then what is your basis for it mattering and why is that ultimately meaningful?

Or you could just ask what's the world going to do about it? Good question. If I'm reading you right, you are saying the end of the state of Israel is the solution. The solution to what? Do you think this will make Muslims happy enough to eventually become good world citizens instead of wanting to take over the world for Allah?

I don't ever see that happening. They took the Holy Land and invaded India and Africa and were so unhappy they almost took over Europe too literally threatening to destroy all of Western Civilization. If it weren't for the very Christian Charles Martel who drove them off establishing the renewed Holy Roman Empire (not to be confused with the ancient Roman Empire), we might all be under sharia bowing five times a day or have our heads cut off. Those Muslims killed almost 100,000,000 Hindus alone (they offed 100,000 in a single day just for fun) in what they consider the "good old days." Islam was intended to be a religion and political "solution" and a good Muslim is instructed in Muslim literature (of which the Koran is only one part) to be about living and spreading it over the entire face of the earth. A lot of misinformation about Islam has been published in western popular literature and over the media by journalists conforming to political correctness. For example, the early more tolerant Meccan teachings are always superceded in Islam by the later violent Medina teachings as Muhammad's revelation is taught to be progressive meaning Muslims don't think he changed his mind as he got older but that his revelation came more into view.

So it doesn't go away. You get rid of Israel you still have Islam and Islam only makes a temporary second class existence for people of the book which is to be done away with once they control the world. Atheists, pagans, and punk rockers are straight infidels to be destroyed. Islam always posits submit or resist. Fortunately a great many Muslims are nominal just like a great many Catholics and Christians and Hindus are nominal at this time otherwise we'd have SERIOUS problems far exceeding anything we see today.

Simple solutions often are not so simple.